thanks tosspot(?)
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27 Dec 2007, 14:49
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btw, you guys should remove interface from xfire, cause he could get you in legal trouble..
ill try to report every posts that glorifies nazis to the authorities from now on.
ill try to report every posts that glorifies nazis to the authorities from now on.
sry :)
how could you think about something like that.
im just saying: make sure something like that doesnt happen! cause it could really harm you, and im not saying that ill be the one harming you, it can be anyone stumbling on this page.
well, copyright laws and laws against nazi glorification are way other stories.
"Holocaust denial is explicitly or implicitly illegal in 13 countries: Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, France, Germany, Israel, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Poland, Portugal, Romania and Switzerland. The Netherlands and Italy have recently considered legislation but rejected such proposals in 2006 and 2007 respectively. Slovakia made Holocaust denial a crime in late 2001 but repealed the legislation in May 2005. Spain decriminalized Holocaust denial in October 2007."
well i say come here and try it but dont be surprised if you get stabbed :)
idiot
Second, how big chance is it that Nazism and Communism takes over the world again. Well lets use Sweden as an example. We got like one true nazi among 10000 normal people, this man is also more hated than you could ever imagine. Political parties not even close to beeing nazis are labeld as such and spit at. However among the same 10000 normal people you'll find maybe 300 fanatic communist who are glorified by media and also hold some power in the swedish parlament.
What about China, did it fail?
*Sorry didnt meant to say that you said it was good. It was this I wrote back against "If communism would be destructive".
*Going now.
Just check it.
Calling a political ideology bad is subjective, not to mention the fact that many people seem to be unable to distinguish between the ideology itself and how it's employed. A gun in itself is not inherently bad, it's how it's used. Supposing I shoot a rapist with a gun, is the gun good? How about if I shoot an innocent child with it, is the gun then bad?
Communism itself is not applicable in modern world and will never be build imo. Is not applicable because of the society and each member of it. And if some random country decides to do it will have a big probability that some new Mao or Stalin will occur.
You're not distinguishing between the political ideology and its context. Germany was lead by one of the most twisted sociopathic megalomaniacs in modern-history, don't confuse Nazism with Adolf Hitler's ideology, they're not necessarily the same thing. Nazism is an off-shoot of fascism, is fascism bad? That's subjective. My point is that an ideology in itself is not inherently bad, it's the context in which it's employed.
It was communist, now it's socialist with capatalist tendencies, as you said.
Germany was one of the most significant countries in the world during WWII and was an economic powerhouse, not sure how either that or what you said is revelant to the discussion though!
It has low GDP per capita and low HDI, it's not what many people would deem successful. It was industrialised rapidly by Mao at a cost of 70 million lives, under communist rule. My point was that that doesn't make communism bad, it makes Mao an idiot.
That is because it is a flawed ideology and has never worked, and will never 'work'. Is it bad? No, it's impractical. My gun analogy was relevant because a political ideology such as Nazism or Communism shouldn't be confused with who is calling the shots, no pun intended.
So with Hitler it was just a bit more radical, but practically almost the same. This ideology is bad in all senses.
Have they really finished building it?
Significant in a different way. Everyone in need of China to produce goods cheaply and it doesn't mean badly, due to artificial currency manipulation they have normal or even good wages. Low GDP in US dollars, but for them it should be satisfactory.
nicely said 8D
kind of reminds me of the henry ford quote: "You can have this car in any color you want! as long as you choose black" :D
Buuuuuut nazis hate free speech, and thats the point, nazis getting fucked because of their stupidness is just superfunny <3
Edit: If ppl find nazism so stupid and idiotic (wich 95% of the ppl do), then they dont need to worry about it. And by saying nazis should have their right to free speech I dont mean that their ways of bashing ppl with voilence is ok. But their opinions should be just as any other politicians opinion, ok. If people like it or not is for the ppl to decide.
(Do I win a prize?)
[engTRY] again an austrian getting crazy
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ÅK HEM!!
Le Freak, C'est Chic
Freak out!
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(But certainly not on the sunshine, the moonlight or the good times; and definitely not on yourself).
but another points is - was it a good thing or not :)
cya later@ vent?
What is it that I hear? Freedome of speaching loving democrats afraid of other peoples oppinions? So as long as you think as the good guys your in the clear and freedome of speach rules. But when you start to criticize "minority groups" like the jews you go to jail. If you are a revisionist and having doubts about the holocast you go to jail aswell.
One man once said, to know who is in charge you have to find out who you can't criticize.
You are playing a dirty game. Financed by jews and fueled by your footsoldiers of communistic groups.
No-one can stand in the way for an idea which time has come. Neither can you. So go ahead, report all the dirty nazis you'll see. It won't make a difference!
Denying the holocaust is not "a different opinon" but deliberate falsification of history. They can't even be called "revisionists" since every historian is a revisionist in some way, holocaust denier just use this expression to gain the glint of legitimacy. The holocaust is proven by so many documents and statements of victims AND of the nazis. For example Wilhelm Höttl spoke about 6 million jews on the Nuremberg Trial who got killed.
This is a great quote. Any idea who said it, or just random?
e.g. russians who even now teach to their children that baltic countrys came to USSR by their own will and finland started winterwar themselves. how stupid can you get? :D
If the holocast is so bulletproof as you say it is, why do we need all these laws around protecting it?
The main purpose of holocaust deniers is to unburden the nazi-regime and make fascism "suitable for daily use" again. Denying the holocaust is a huge offense to every single person who lost his parents/grandparents/family... during the holocaust.
And yes, the holocaust is "bulletproof" as you name it. Even though the nazis tried to cover up as much as possible there is still a HUGE amount of documents which proof the holocaust and the use of gaschambers. Not even to mention reports of survivors and even of nazis themselves. NOONE during the Nuremberg Trials denied the holocaust, they just tried to reduce their personal guilt. "proof" of holocaust deniers usually be either exposed as antisemitic propaganda (usually fake or completely being put out of context) with ease.
its not like it's happened hundreds of years ago, and could be made up, we still have people who lived throught that, and maybe, in hundred years, some retarded kids will grow up and say that it didnt happen, and hitler was a nice guy, but it is very unlikely, because now we have media, free(?) flow of information and such event is nearly impossible to dismiss (unless there is some super secret mega conspiracy and i live in matrix)
the sad part is, you are not even that wrong with your "super secret mega conspiracy". holocaust deniers keep mentioning a jewish conspiracy. right after the wars the almighty jews faked all the documents, blackmailed the commiters to admit everything and the victims cant be trusted anyways cos they are jewish. reason for this conspiracy is the jewish greed for money, they want to demand reparation from the germans (btw they often say a superelevated number of killed jews = 6 million = more money from Germany, but in reality germany is paying compensation for the reintegration of the survivors) in order to control the whole capital market!
How silly, it's as though you're suggesting that history is never wrong and that we should not question it. Some Irish historians dispute the number of people that died in the Irish famine, is that deliberate falsification of history? I don't think that history is all sewn-up as conclusively as you suggest.
You should also remember that the term 'Holocaust denial' is not only denying that the holocaust happened, but it also includes disputes over its magnitude, that is to say, suggesting that fewer died.
If someone sais, gaschambers have never existed and it's a complete lie (which lots of ppl also do) then i think it's justified to call that falsification of history, since it is "bulletproofed" and out of discussion that this happened.
Coming back to the "moderate" holocaust deniers, who just try to lower the numbers. You have to distinguish between a legitimate study, which tries to find out how many ppl really died (in that case i will never call it falsification of history, no matter if the result is 4,5 million dead jews or 6 million) and studies just with the purpose to lower the number of killed jews in order to unburden the nazi-regime. an example for this is a faked document of the Red Cross in Switzerland which says only 300.000 ppl died due to racial and political persecution. Same if some "revisionists" use numbers which are completely pulled out of context and mixed up with own estimates in order to proof a number of 1,5 million dead jews e.g. (examples are Peter Kleist or Paul Rassinier). In this case it is also justified to call it falsification of history.
this is the least place anyone would want racism happening!
player A sais that he doesnt like player B because he smells
or
player A sais that he doesnt like player B because hes muslim
in my eyes - theres no difference. its just someones opinion.
pretty stupid to delete/ban stuff like this because you just "are not allowed to say something like that" .
its like in soviet era when u were not alowed to talk anything bad about goverment
the two things you said are totally different
u really cant say a n y t h i n g bad to black dude - because thats immideately racism :)
like jews with their holocaust thingy - they just keep crying and crying and crying and wont stop it.
Learn something first , you russian idiot , who maybe never has been to school before.
I was referring to ideologies in my post to Lotix, NOT COUNTRIES that implemented them in their way. There is a clear destructiveness of nazism, mainly because of racism. Talking about history, it's true that both regimes were destructive, but who are you to have a right to compare 2 regimes? Fucking brainless kid? What is your silly excuse? You must be fucking ashamed by what you have just written. The only people who may have a right to compare is the one's who suffered from both and not you trash, eventhough these things are incomparable to each other. And stop associating word 'russian' with communist, like every russian was a communist, fucking prick. I hope you get aids after this post.
really , tell me.
if that one bad thing IS the skin color then what should i do?
It's like u start a campaign "All left-handers! Stand up for ur _race_! Fight the right handers in every way you can! Lets kill them all to save our left handers race!"
It's just stupid. Who the hell cares about the skin color, it doesn't make a human better or worse. If the skin color is ur way to judge about a human, then poor u....
that doesnt mean i think that killing millions of jews or niggers in nazigermany / ku-klux-clan era was good .
i dont think that killing is good in any way.
i just dont want to see those kind of people near me and im really glad that i live in a country where i see a nigger maybe once a week.
btw would you play together with a black in the same team? 8D
not even in mix games.
ehm what?
and i think the same.
so , now , if we see a black/yellow/brown man - what do we think?
"ugh - wtf is that?!"
ok , not really :P but its just not right.
anyway , i understand that ppl living in west EU are used to live together with other races just because they have seen them all their life but ask from your parents or grandparents - what did they feel or think when the first "wafe" of immigrants started to come.
im pretty sure that there was a very big % of ppl who think like me.
indeed there are many retards in this world
anyway , this discussion has stolen pretty much of my worktime today and i still need to repair 4 laptops and i got like 30 minutes to do that - fuck :)
im off for few hours.
and im home .
I dont know what's worse, but either you have no clue what you are talking about, or you really mean what you say (if thats true I'm going to loose my belief in the human race!).
and of course you can be intolerant against supporters of intolerance, its logic! =)
and no that's no racism
Read the newspapers
i love black people but i hate niggers
also good
Learn something first , you russian idiot , who maybe never has been to school before.
and i hate the way people always say communists but mean the russians (stalinism imo?)
and sending people to siberia has nothing to do with communism, heck russians didn't even achieved communism!
Stalinism = communism
And most of the russians are with communist view .
so imo no stalinisme =/= communisme
It's like I name myself frog. My penis is longer than urs, so ur conclusion is frogs have a longer penis than humans!
I was referring to ideologies in my post to Lotix, NOT COUNTRIES that implemented them in their way. There is a clear destructiveness of nazism, mainly because of racism. Talking about history, it's true that both regimes were destructive, but who are you to have a right to compare 2 regimes? Fucking brainless kid? What is your silly excuse? You must be fucking ashamed by what you have just written. The only people who may have a right to compare is the one's who suffered from both and not you trash, eventhough these things are incomparable to each other. And stop associating word 'russian' with communist, like every russian was a communist, fucking prick. I hope you get aids after this post.
Are u fucking brain-dead?
You have down syndrome or what? Just reread what I have written. If it won't help, sorry, but you must be really sick.
HAIL STALIN
HAIL LENIN
RED ARMY HAIL
btw statistic never lies, in your case
you are incredibly stupid, and you dont realise it, maybe someday
Fuck nazi Sympathy.
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wie wärs mit einsicht... auch wenns net ernst gemeind ist (das hoff ich jedenfalls) sind das dinge über die man keine witze macht
Go racism!