Banned & Column Removed

Seems someone didn't like the column I wrote which was reason enough to simply delete half an hour of my writing and to permanently ban me from Crossfire stating that I "was only there for three hours" (which is wrong). All I wanted to do was start a productive discussion since I clearly stated that none of the admins was to be blamed and it was about the general format, and that's how it's dealt with here. Thank you.

FDJ
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where was the column bout!?
banning fdj does seem wrong
The column was titled "Too Much?" and it was about the CDC having possibly too many games / teams and that it needs to decide between being a community event and being an esports tournament.
I've read it, was actualy a nice read and I think your statement is true.

4 games is a but much in 3 days, espescialy if you have 30 CoD teams. And maybe a larger spot, I was way to small for such an event. Imo every player should fit in the lan center at the same time, otherwise the center is too small :D

The lan center has to be the center of the fun, and the meeting place for people. Not only the spot where you play your games and then have to search a place to chill out.
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Sad indeed, and you're right, it's way too much to have so many games. They should've just made a seperate event for CoD, since they had so many teams. But after the epic fail of CoD for CDC3, they were probably scared it would happen again.
ET deserves a seperate event anyway, since it is by far the most popular game and the actual reason crossfire and CDC exist.
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'ET deserves a seperate event anyway, since it is by far the most popular game and the actual reason crossfire and CDC exist.'

Though ET makes up the active community on the website, I highly doubt the majority of sponsorship money coming in, is because of ET. CoD has been with ET since CPC1. Discrediting it is somewhat harsh!
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Quote by TehRealZAMi love crossfire for letting me time a novell comment in half an our and then saying wrong confirmation code and all text is gone O_o

<3 is in the air

i will make long comment short

set ui_name zAm. <3 CDC ... NOT!

worst event ever! (except the ppl which were their)
in my oppinion it's only ET which fucked up the schedule...people need like 3 hours to setup their pc and then another hour to start the match...
ye, next cdc without et!
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etqw you mean? the one with 9 teams. even if ur post was a joke, its still funny how fast you forget your roots. I wouldnt care if ET was the only game played at lan, the event would still be successful.
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man, the players need like 2 hours to setup their pc's and another hour to ready up...we were able to start all our games after a maximum of 30mins.
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so? you had 9 teams, players were using limbo menu (tells how much they need to setup) and the game is so dead already.
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only sporty used limbo menu :D
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that limbomenuthing was more of an sidenote.
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omg crossfire.
retarded admins :o)
We did it for you, you were sick this weekend and therefore you didnt know what you were talking about. When your illness has gone, so will your ban.

If you truly had suggestions or complaints that you wanted addressed you wouldnt have written a column you would have written an email to me or waited until I saw you next weekend in Cologne. If you truly wanted the event to succeed, you maybe would have waited to make the post so that admins that just worked 16 hour days for this community werent being attacked just moments after the tournament was over. And if you wanted to write an informed column, either you would have been there yourself or you would have taken the opinion from places elsewhere than just the German ETQW community.

I know that in your heart you wanted the best for the event, and because you are sick (hense why you went home) we looked out for you, because you're clearly not thinking straight.
a) We can't talk about this in Cologne since I'll be at CeBIT from Wednesday on.

b) The question mark in the title was not unintentional. I wrote this to have a place where those who went could discuss this topic since I didn't assume what I thought was the ultimate truth.

c) I made it very clear that I respect the admins' work very much and that this is not about them.

d) I was there for eight hours on Friday and for a short time on Saturday, I followed the tournament from home on Sunday. I clearly didn't leave for any reasons other than that I was too sick too stay.

e) It is unfair to say I only took opinions from the ETQW community. What I wrote about was influenced by what I saw at the event, not what anyone told me.

Banning me and patronising me like that is just something I can't understand. I vomitted my insides out but I'm not mentally handicapped. Also that column is gone and so is a lot of work as I have no backup.
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Like I said, when you're better and are able to think straight you'll be unbanned.

But the reality is, if you really wanted changes or just wanted to express your opinion and werent whining for the sake of being whiningdj you would just mail me.
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I consider a column a better place since it provides the opportunity to discuss and get feedback from others. However, I really would have liked to do an extensive video of this edition. Unfortunately it didn't work out and if your reaction to my feedback is this, I don't think this is worth any more effort.
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If your video is going to be as poorly thought out as your column then I doubt ESLTV would allow you to put their brand on it.
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actualy columns are mostly there to start discussions, and he had a point. And you know that, because the shedule was totaly fucked for more reasons.

it's true he could better wait until the end of the event with posting it though.

if you can't take criticism you shouldn't be hosting such events.

But after all I still had fun @ CDC4 (for the 4 hours I've been there). I think the event was succesfull for most of the players attending but making it better can't do any harm, does it?
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I ask for feedback from lots of people that attend, FlyingDJ has had a problem with being kept out of the crossfire decision process for years and therefor choses to whine about everything, he has whined about something at 3 out of 4 cdcs, he is very much the boy who cried wolf.

His column was not to incite change because if he had an idea he'd mail me, at least thats what I'd do rather than specifically chosing the very best time to piss someone off, he chose a very 'user friendly' subject in his column "Hey there wasnt enough priority on ET" which 75% of users of this site will agree with regardless of any circumstances and has been proven by numerous ignorant replies in this journal.
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ke, and I still had fun @ CDC no mather what other people say :D

hopefully KKC can poen CDC5 :P cu there
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Lol, you're talking like he's mentally disabled!
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maybe the countless hours of work he put to make cdc happen has impaired his judgement call :O
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wow, didnt expext such words...
leads to the opinion DJ has a brain bug :x
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QuoteWe did it for you, you were sick this weekend and therefore you didnt know what you were talking about. When your illness has gone, so will your ban.


MEGAROFLED. xD
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hard words that rly dont fit to you!
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That doesn't make any sense.
(Just going by what FDJ wrote here about his column, after all it's the only thing I can go by, because the column itself is deleted.)

A column is all about an opinion. So, what stops you from responding to his column and saying where you think he is wrong (or whatever), essentially starting a discussion? Instead you delete the column, ban the 'offender' and now personally attack him.
Why mail? What's wrong with having a 'public' discussion about the issue, so you can see how other people, more precisely attendees of the LAN, feel about it?
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Because he didnt have a point to make, there are plenty of journals with suggestions and complaints, DJ was just looking to knock the event for whatever reason has motivated him to do so now in 3 out of 4 events.

Something that is such a senseless attack I chose to delete and I couldnt give a flying fuck whether people dont like that fact after the weekend this team just gave the community such a mindless attack on them and their work should be deleted. Everyone of the admin team that read it were pissed off by it, so I got rid of it. When you work for the community for 5 days in a row from 7am to 4am you earn the right to save yourself from being pissed off.
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well there is an admin who plays around here tbh, i once opened my profile and found a pic of an monkey sucking his own dick(true story!) but i couldnt find who it was :/ wasnt me as im not drinking
Welcome to CF, CensorFire !


Lame, I know =<
haha, good joke.
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Oah pls...banning FlyingDJ, who is really known as a person with quality contributions and removing some serious content just because it contains criticism is unbelievable lame.

I don't think you had to be there to write about it (he was even there)...as people who participated hadn't the same criticism.
agree, the controversial things are the ones needed for improvement. if such discussion is prohibited then no improvement takes place. that plus they are the most interesting ones to read.

constructive critisism is surely a thing not to be discouraged.
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There are tons of deserved "good work" compliments and also FDJ stated his respect for the work of the admins, but pls it doesn't mean that there is no space for improvements.

And the column was really not full of wrongs, but with good points, which should be discussed. So I have really no understanding that it got deleted and especially that he did get banned.

You can get the feeling that there is someone too often surrounded by asscrawling "yes-men" so that he lost the track of the reality.
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mens0 you love to jump on the bandwagon of complaint even if it goes back on something you previously said.

He chose a subject that someone like you would buy into and hop onboard the whine train. There was no thought process of bettering the event behind his column.
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Well, I know I am acting often as a smart ass, who critcizes things, which I couldn't do better, but there is coming up a perverted picture as if there is a decision, which I like for 70 per cent and dislike for 30 per cent then I am mostly focussing and writing about the part I dislike.

I also can imagine that it hurts and annoys to read some critical feedback, after a shitload of hours of voluntary work, but still there are another lan events incoming and you should be interested in well described and explained negative criticism to improve the event the next time and not only in the nothing saying asscrawl "I love you Tosspot" comments.

If the content of fdj was so wrong, then the text had get fucked up by the users in the comments anyway, but deleting content and banning someone, because the content is not matching with his own opinion is pretty lame.

Quotemens0 you love to jump on the bandwagon of complaint even if it goes back on something you previously said.


That's not true. When you have published the first signup stats, at the begin of the period, the amount of the cod4 teams was high and the rest low.

So I told that you shouldn't force every planned game and should focus on cod4, if the amount of signups stay so low, but in the same sentence I have written that I am pretty sure the ET sign ups will increase hardly. All I whined about later was, that it shouldn't be a problem to have 4 more slots for the game that made crossfire what it is. Having 36 cod4 slots and 16 et slots still means to focus on cod4, so no conflict at all.
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next cdc only ET!
Nice, banning FlyingDJ, who has always been a great contributor for this website. Unleashing a discussion by giving your perspective on an event isn't negative at all in my opinion, although the perspective might be wrong / not based on anything. The only thing he maybe could have done different was not making it a column, but a forumn entry instead.

Please unban him...
nothin new

theres an championship which admin can spread the most bans in 2008!!!
stop being so bitter about it already.
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wasnt offensive, more funny...since i could have put it in (q=admin)(/q)
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I didnt mean that.
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kk, but the other situation is kinda interesting too!
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I agree with the esports vs community event discussion. In my own experience it is hard to critisize Tosspot and I guess if you really have to do it and want to get away with it you should mail / pm.

As you can read in my journal, I didnt enjoy CDC4 as much as I wanted and I guess it was mostly the CoD4 progaming vs ET fungaming, two scenes who couldnt be more different.

LAN: serious business!
Its not hard, I encourage feedback and have read every journal however there are a select group on this site that enjoy critisizing for the sake of it and you are one of that group, it includes yourself, flyingdj most of the ppl from that streetfighters group and a few lucky others.

The story of the boy who cried wolf sums it up best, if someone who doesnt whine often comes up and makes a complaint then it carries far more weight than someone like yourself or flyingdj. FlyingDJ for an example did not earn the nickname WhiningDJ for no reason.
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What, you're a comedian now? You judge me from start to end and blame others for not knowing you enough to judge you?
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